|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 6 post(s) |

Endeavour Starfleet
910
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 08:58:00 -
[1] - Quote
Some of the responses in this thread and the other one are DISGUSTING. And absolutely uncalled for.
Was it a terrible accident? YES Does it need a fully documented investigation? YES Should it involve communication with the CSM? YES Should someone lose their job and be thrown into the bad job market because of a mistake made in a ******* video game? NO!!!!!!!
Get the hell over yourselves. It was a mistake that messed up an historic day in a video game. Not something that had any affect on anything in real life.
I call on the leaders of the CFC to make a statement that shows they do not agree with some of these forum whiners. |

Endeavour Starfleet
910
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 09:05:00 -
[2] - Quote
Ezio Dicostanzo wrote:shame on you CCP, you fun killer! we dont care about your sorry ass excuses, just do the f*cking job we pay you for with our subscriptions
get your **** together, wtf !!!
It was a ******* mistake. If you can't accept their apology then please biomass (No I don't want your stuff) your accounts and leave EVE. It is a game. |

Endeavour Starfleet
910
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 09:18:00 -
[3] - Quote
Heptameron wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Some of the responses in this thread and the other one are DISGUSTING. And absolutely uncalled for.
Get the hell over yourselves. It was a mistake that messed up an historic day in a video game. Not something that had any affect on anything in real life.
I call on the leaders of the CFC to make a statement that shows they do not agree with some of these forum whiners. awwww so cute, someone trying to be relevant.... fyi people were in that fight playing for 6 hours, yes the playing part is one thing but that time spent is a RL figure and therefore has an impact. Ask the guys involved in that for 6 hours in 10% TIDI if they would have endured it all if they had known the eventual outcome? If the guys running the service were volunteers then I would agree but they are not. They are well paid and are expected to do a good job in return, the fact its internet space pixels has absolutely nothing to do with it.
You are not guaranteed service. And while the pilots in that system did get a raw deal it does not warrant the absolutely horrible conduct some members have shown on these forums. It is a game and if you choose to spend all day in a system at such horrid Tidi that is your choice. What happened won't mean your family has to endure hardship like people are suggesting happen to a CCP employee. |

Endeavour Starfleet
910
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 09:28:00 -
[4] - Quote
Harrkonen Dune wrote:So it now appears that CCP have joined the ranks of the unwashed masses against the CFC, declared war on the home of the useless and the land of the bad.
I guess it was only a matter of time, we are fighting everyone else why not you.
You have any evidence for that statement? Or are you just posting Libel towards a company for fun? |

Endeavour Starfleet
910
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 09:55:00 -
[5] - Quote
Harrkonen Dune wrote:...And by the way if you make a mistake you must be held accountable for that mistake or lessons are never learned....
I expect another bad reply.
Its a ******* game. This is not something that affected the stock market. You want a CCP employee punished or even lose his or her job over a mistake likely made while excited over a battle happening in the game they maintain?
Tell me then what frakking incentive is there then for them to give a rats ass if a future battle takes place in the future on a node that is not reenforced? Especially If their jobs and REAL LIFE can be harmed by whiny ass pod pilots screaming that they didn't get to add big stuff to their boards.
Also this Libel about CCP favoring one side or another needs to stop. It is not funny posting. It is defamatory statements that can harm CCP if people considering the game take that as actually being true. If one has evidence otherwise then please post it. |

Endeavour Starfleet
911
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 11:00:00 -
[6] - Quote
Cyrenna Goran wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Some of the responses in this thread and the other one are DISGUSTING. And absolutely uncalled for.
Was it a terrible accident? YES Does it need a fully documented investigation? YES Should it involve communication with the CSM? YES Should someone lose their job and be thrown into the bad job market because of a mistake made in a ******* video game? NO!!!!!!!
Get the hell over yourselves. It was a mistake that messed up an historic day in a video game. Not something that had any affect on anything in real life.
I call on the leaders of the CFC to make a statement that shows they do not agree with some of these forum whiners. Why is every cancer spewing ****** like you screaming about it being a video game?? It's a game and a service people dedicate an insanely amount of time, not even talking about paying for this game every month. It is not alright to provide a **** poor service and defend it with the argument that its a video game, their whole ******* business idea is a video game!!!!!! Do you think a bank would just disregard a thing of this magnitude? If CCP wants to be regarded as a serious business they will have to take action and create routines... Maybe they should look towards something like ITIL. However i do not believe in firing people over a single misstake.
EVE Online is not a Bank it is a video game. Banks have to spend FAR more on network security and stability because a failure can actually harm a business or personal finances in real life.
Not getting on a potential hundred capital killmails is nothing in comparison. |

Endeavour Starfleet
911
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 11:11:00 -
[7] - Quote
ito kazami wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote: Its a ******* game. This is not something that affected the stock market. You want a CCP employee punished or even lose his or her job over a mistake likely made while excited over a battle happening in the game they maintain?
if at my job i **** with 3000 customers at once, im indeed fired right away . but more than that , i dont give a **** of why / how it happened . what i care about is what ccp will do to compensate the strategic harm they did once more to CFC . nothing , as susual.
So you are comparing a video game losing service for a few minutes to a real life job where I assume you would be fired because the action would have caused financial harm to whoever was involved?
Again I request anyone who actually (Not just raging on the forums like in idiot) feels that a CCP employee ought to lose his or her job or punished for a simple mistake that was likely due to the excitement over the battle happening in a game they maintain. I personally request anyone that feels that way biomass their character and leave EVE for good. In my opinion the game will be better without them.
Do you know how on average how difficult it is to land a similar job if you have been terminated from your existing one? Many jobs won't even bother looking at the application (Some even admit this) if the person applying is not currently working. |

Endeavour Starfleet
911
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 11:28:00 -
[8] - Quote
Because I know the difference between real life and a video game? |

Endeavour Starfleet
911
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 11:45:00 -
[9] - Quote
Beidorion eldwardan wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Some of the responses in this thread and the other one are DISGUSTING. And absolutely uncalled for.
Was it a terrible accident? YES Does it need a fully documented investigation? YES Should it involve communication with the CSM? YES Should someone lose their job and be thrown into the bad job market because of a mistake made in a ******* video game? NO!!!!!!!
Get the hell over yourselves. It was a mistake that messed up an historic day in a video game. Not something that had any affect on anything in real life.
I call on the leaders of the CFC to make a statement that shows they do not agree with some of these forum whiners. it is not just a video game. it is an entertaiment product being sold for a monthly fee, and might i add one where we as costomers have no rights when something goes wrong. so yes if you destroy the quality of the product your company is sellig due to being unable to correctly do your job, then yes you get fired. its not about reallife implications or not its purely about someone at ccp not being good at his or her job... so let someone better at the keyboard.
Fired eh? Thrown into the bad job market over a single mistake and some tears over not getting a bunch of fancy additions to personal killboards.
Please do get over yourself. Or Biomass your in game character. Personally I would request if you did the latter. |

Endeavour Starfleet
913
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 21:16:00 -
[10] - Quote
Paul Leonard Kersey wrote:CCP ruins gameplay again, this is not news.
Any other company that screwed it's customers repeatedly like this soon went out of business.
Start firing some of these fat fingered "DEVS", maybe the others will actually check what they're typing.
Any employee that screwed up this bad, or this many times needs to be fired.
So you would enjoy playing a game where you knew employees were fearing over making even the smallest mistakes?
Do you enjoy firing people and throwing them out into the job market? Do you relish the thought of their families having hardship because you didn't get that carrier mail?
I have another idea how about you biomass your EVE online characters and leave this game? Honestly would you please do that?
Obearoth HuanTao wrote:.....Mistakes like this, is simply unacceptable. The nerd the pulled this of, should be delegated to washing toilets, or no more then running a very small and unimportant obscure server. .......
Please I beg of you. Please biomass your in game characters and leave this game. |
|

Endeavour Starfleet
913
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 23:15:00 -
[11] - Quote
Paul Leonard Kersey wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Paul Leonard Kersey wrote:CCP ruins gameplay again, this is not news.
Any other company that screwed it's customers repeatedly like this soon went out of business.
Start firing some of these fat fingered "DEVS", maybe the others will actually check what they're typing.
Any employee that screwed up this bad, or this many times needs to be fired.
So you would enjoy playing a game where you knew employees were fearing over making even the smallest mistakes? Do you enjoy firing people and throwing them out into the job market? Do you relish the thought of their families having hardship because you didn't get that carrier mail? I have another idea how about you biomass your EVE online characters and leave this game? Honestly would you please do that? Obearoth HuanTao wrote:.....Mistakes like this, is simply unacceptable. The nerd the pulled this of, should be delegated to washing toilets, or no more then running a very small and unimportant obscure server. ....... Please I beg of you. Please biomass your in game characters and leave this game. Ruining the biggest fight in the game for months is not the smallest mistake... If they can't do the job right, they don't deserve the job to begin with, and carrier mails have nothing to do with an employee bring incompetent. Can't do your job right? find one you can, (I suggest fast food with this kind of record) I should leave because someone at CCP can't do their job properly? go home troll Eve DEV that can't type a system name in properly, or be bothered to double check needs to be fired
I don't want you to just leave. I beg of you to biomass your characters so hopefully you are not tempted to return to this game.
|

Endeavour Starfleet
913
|
Posted - 2013.07.06 00:13:00 -
[12] - Quote
Strategos Constance wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote: So you would enjoy playing a game where you knew employees were fearing over making even the smallest mistakes?
Do you enjoy firing people and throwing them out into the job market? Do you relish the thought of their families having hardship because you didn't get that carrier mail?
I have another idea how about you biomass your EVE online characters and leave this game? Honestly would you please do that?
1. On the flip coin, I would hope that people wouldn't work like they are irreplaceable either. People do get fired for doing major aspects of their job incorrectly, it could be as simple as mis-wiring a house or as far out as a doctor making a mistake, in any case people are held accountable for their actions, intentional or not. However, since no one knows the performance of the individual in a grand view of things, it is unwise for anyone to tell a company how to treat their employees. 2. Job markets are irrelevant when it comes to a company. You can't get personal, it is business. Sometimes employers keep employees for far to long, even if they are terrible, only because they feel bad for them. It is a mistake. To be successful unfortunately means you can't take things personally and you have to do what must be done. Your scenario of companies putting people out on the street are far from laudable considering that the employee usually has to do something wrong and is held accountable. Funny how employees are the ones that can get themselves fire, not some "evil" corporation. If someone can't do the general job, then you find someone who can for not only you, but your customers. Seriously though, biomass your character? I am not really sure how that would accomplish anything. They have to "gasp" make another character? Or we could keep posting under assumed characters / identities so we can hide who we really are... cause no one does that! Last point, what is your objective in all of this? You are pretty confusing constantly defending CCP, but telling their playerbase to biomass. If your looking to be alone with CCP, this is not the way I would do it.
#1 It is a video game. A miswired house can be a potential fire or shock hazard a doctor making a mistake can endanger the patient and potentially others. What happened with EVE was an accidental server command. The result is a bit of egg in the face of CCP and whiny ass people screaming that people should be fired over them not getting to add lots of shiny green to their boards. Not exactly equal in the level of potential harm to anyone in RL but people want someone to lose his RL job over it?
#2 Except people are making it personal. They are directly saying the person should be fired and it is clear as day the reason is because they did not get their big green addition to their boards or they didn't get their huge victory and they believe that equals someones job over a damn mistake.
#3 Yes I am calling for them to voluntarily biomass their characters (The entire account and alt account's) not just posting alts. I am requesting those players to no longer play EVE online. |

Endeavour Starfleet
913
|
Posted - 2013.07.06 00:17:00 -
[13] - Quote
Nox Solitudo wrote:Strategos Constance wrote:
1. On the flip coin, I would hope that people wouldn't work like they are irreplaceable either. People do get fired for doing major aspects of their job incorrectly, it could be as simple as mis-wiring a house or as far out as a doctor making a mistake, in any case people are held accountable for their actions, intentional or not. However, since no one knows the performance of the individual in a grand view of things, it is unwise for anyone to tell a company how to treat their employees.
Mwahaha... I've seen a guy who accidentally shut down mainframe server, or a guy who accidentally deleted the main database of certain bank. both kept doing their job. I feel a bit sorry for that CCP guy though :)
Hopefully because the companies they worked for realized that instead of terminating employment they can better use the effort to write up better procedures to prevent accidents like that in the future.
Sure as hell beats "HEY WATERBOY!! YOUR'EEE FIREEEEEEEED!!!!!!" That some people are acting like in this topic.
|

Endeavour Starfleet
913
|
Posted - 2013.07.06 00:41:00 -
[14] - Quote
Jimmy Morane wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote:[quote=Strategos Constance][quote=Endeavour Starfleet]
#1 It is a video game. A miswired house can be a potential fire or shock hazard a doctor making a mistake can endanger the patient and potentially others. What happened with EVE was an accidental server command. The result is a bit of egg in the face of CCP and whiny ass people screaming that people should be fired over them not getting to add lots of shiny green to their boards. Not exactly equal in the level of potential harm to anyone in RL but people want someone to lose his RL job over it?
You know if someone works at burger king and keeps screwing up the orders they are going to get fired. It's a service being provided for money. Screwing up burger orders doesn't cost any lives either, and I think that's what these people are getting at. Eve is a service that is provided for money, and it should work when those who have paid that money decide to use the service.
#1 Burger King is an entry level employer for the most part. VASTLY different from the difficulty on average for landing a living wage job. Especially if you are already unemployed.
#2 If someone finally loses their job at burger king over not getting orders done correctly. It was likely because they never cared for the job in the first place vastly different from what likely this was which in my opinion were excited server admins trying to make an awesome EVE battle better.
#3 I've worked in retail. I have seen attempts to get employees in trouble or employment terminated over the smallest things. And to be frank the stench of self entitlement is similar to how some of these players are reacting. It is called "TAKE MINE AND **** YOU!" They lost nothing in the real world but think the mistake is worth someone losing their job. |

Endeavour Starfleet
913
|
Posted - 2013.07.06 04:40:00 -
[15] - Quote
Criticism of CCP as a company is fine. And I will be the first to say that CCP procedures are lacking and that this would likely not have happened had proper safeguards been in place to prevent these server accidents.
Saying an employee ought to be fired over a mistake that had no real measurable harm (CCP has a little egg on its face. It is not another boot.ini incident) out of a game of space pixels and spreadsheets is absolutely wrong and I beg people who truly believes as such. Believe that a family has to endure hardship because someone didn't get their in game capital kills. I beg of those people to biomass all their characters across all their accounts and leave. |
|
|
|